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01:45:50 | warren: | Can someone point at a thread that contains the math of the orphan risk and KB cost? |
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01:57:18 | petertodd: | Question: is there a simple n-party version of ECDH? Can you do something like add the n-1 parties' pubkeys together somehow or something? |
01:57:32 | petertodd: | I'm looking for something to non-interactively create a shared secret between n-parties. |
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03:23:28 | andytoshi: | petertodd: pretty sure the answer is no. i'll muse on this as i go to sleep |
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03:37:26 | petertodd: | andytoshi: thanks |
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21:17:43 | grazs: | well, that was shocking |
21:18:05 | petertodd: | gmaxwell: they going to at least add a mechanism for a public total coins out accumulator? |
21:18:34 | petertodd: | grazs: just a limitation of the crypto; lots of people are trying to figure out how to remove that limitation, no success yet though |
21:18:54 | gmaxwell: | petertodd: it could be done, but I don't think it would be terribly meaningful. The major advance in zerocash is that you can do everything inside the accumulator, e.g. no actual need for public coins at all. |
21:19:21 | gmaxwell: | And you could only count the coins that exit the zk accumulator. |
21:20:27 | petertodd: | gmaxwell: oh right, now that they have non-variable denominations... |
21:20:47 | petertodd: | gmaxwell: v1 system you certainly could just add up the two types of accumulator actions |
21:20:51 | gmaxwell: | e.g. in zerocoin it only worked in a lame mixing way that wasn't digital cash, but zerocash lets you do blinded in + blinded out. So not just the variable denominations... but the fact that in and out can be blind the whole way. |
21:21:03 | gmaxwell: | sure because you couldn't stay in the accumulator while doing a trade. |
21:21:15 | petertodd: | right, because in and out aren't third-party distinguishable anymore |
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