00:00:47 | zooko: | Nice work! |
00:01:49 | gmaxwell: | well, there is one fitting the pattern which was not a trivial amount: https://blockchain.info/address/1GbWrPLttrvRA7suTouWYunB9DUKihiTpR |
00:01:55 | gmaxwell: | (so far) |
00:02:18 | gmaxwell: | but since 25 btc is a more round number, it's less obviously a repeated payment. |
00:03:16 | gmaxwell: | also the timing of those doesn't fit the pattern I expected— too closely spaced. |
00:03:41 | gmaxwell: | I expect the repeated payments to be several hours or days apart. |
00:05:40 | gmaxwell: | thoguht it's possible they did a bunch of 25 btc real withdraws in the hopes that some would repeat... and the later ones are the repetition. |
00:09:13 | maaku: | i lot of those are just seconds apart |
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00:15:18 | andytoshi: | maaku: in case you missed it earlier my fears about schnorr sigs were unfounded |
00:18:24 | maaku: | andytoshi: thanks for the update! |
00:55:15 | gmaxwell: | fwiw, I've found a bunch more of those possibly goxtheft transactions. |
00:55:37 | gmaxwell: | unfortunately, it's too hard to distinguish the high value ones from legit activity. |
01:00:25 | nsh: | i take it half of the mutated transaction pair is not public? |
01:00:56 | sipa: | ? |
01:01:41 | nsh: | i'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that these thefts were achieved through transaction malleability |
01:02:12 | nsh: | which would allow you to rule out any false positives for which there do not exist mutated transactions if such were recorded |
01:03:01 | gmaxwell: | nsh: perhaps an incorrect assumption. |
01:03:09 | gmaxwell: | it's not necessary. |
01:03:20 | gmaxwell: | But no, no records in any case. |
01:03:25 | nsh: | * nsh nods |
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04:04:26 | phantomcircuit: | gmaxwell, >.> |
04:04:41 | phantomcircuit: | i can ping all but one of the systems |
04:04:46 | phantomcircuit: | i walk the row |
04:04:52 | phantomcircuit: | all of them have miner1/2 flashing |
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21:54:35 | justanotheruser: | Is the optimal solution for keeping track of assets such as stocks a merged mined altchain? |
22:30:14 | maaku: | justanotheruser: no |
22:30:26 | maaku: | that's probably the most ill-optimal solution |
22:31:10 | maaku: | stocks have intrinsic trust in the redeamer/coporation. it's perfectly fine to have a centralized system like open-transactions |
22:31:30 | maaku: | or, use something like colored coins |
22:32:25 | maaku: | if you don't want to polute the block chain with stock trades, then you can move it onto an alt (and maybe add some asset-related features) |
22:32:34 | maaku: | but definately not one-chain-per-asset. that's madness |
22:33:14 | tt_away: | Free worthless stocks for everyone though if you can merge mine it all |
22:36:48 | jtimon: | tt_away a pow chain is not free at all |
22:37:15 | tt_away: | Yeah, I guess you need networked storage and bandwidth. |
22:37:17 | jtimon: | is rather expensive, actually |
22:37:58 | jtimon: | no, you just need to not wirte everything you do in the block chain |
22:38:18 | jtimon: | you have infinite timestamping |
22:38:55 | tt_away: | mm. |
22:39:23 | tt_away: | you'll also probably be 51%'d like with coiled coin too. there's a reason people no longer are making mm'd sha256d coins. |
22:39:30 | jtimon: | you build a merkle tree of archive.org and put the root into the chain |
22:39:49 | jtimon: | but please don't put archive.org into the chain |
22:39:59 | jtimon: | s/into/in |
22:40:21 | jrmithdobbs: | voting textfiles.com |
22:40:26 | tt_away: | googelbytecoin |
22:40:36 | tt_away: | whoever can store the most data gets to make blocks |
22:41:35 | tt_away: | proof-of-storage, i'm patenting that. i assume 10gb blocks are reasonable. |
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