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| 20:30:16 | Emcy: | >In the short term, miners can stop their bandwidth being used for block chain uploads by blocking inbound connections on port 8333 or using the -nolisten flag. The next version will have a checkbox in the GUI for it. But that means the node wont contribute to the p2p network at all. |
| 20:30:50 | Emcy: | doesnt hearn consider the benefits of rule/relay enforcement? |
| 20:37:10 | justanotheruser: | Emcy: its impossible to enforce some rules |
| 20:48:57 | Emcy: | no, this opinion that not having an open port means your node is exactly zero benefit to the network |
| 20:49:06 | Emcy: | i dont think its true? |
| 20:50:00 | kazcw: | miners that don't relay the txes they're including in a block risk much higher orphan rates |
| 20:50:49 | kazcw: | block propogation rate depends mostly on verification time, verification time depends on whether the sigs were already checked for mempool acceptance |
| 20:51:21 | Luke-Jr: | Emcy: relay rules have no value in "enforcement" |
| 20:52:34 | Emcy: | what? nodes enforce rules on the blocks miner nodes make |
| 21:02:52 | Luke-Jr: | Emcy: not relay rules |
| 21:04:22 | Emcy: | no i mean the (default) relay rules enforce txn rules |
| 21:04:40 | Emcy: | and block rules |
| 21:05:09 | Emcy: | i know you cant enforce relay rules on other nodes (cept by banning clown nodes i suppose) |
| 21:05:57 | Emcy: | hearns blog reads like the only value in running an enforcement node is serving chain data? |
| 21:06:07 | Emcy: | which you dont with closed port |
| 21:51:17 | gmaxwell: | On today's expisode of eveything is broken and we're doomed. http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf |
| 21:51:49 | gwillen: | yep. |
| 21:52:38 | gwillen: | gmaxwell: this seems like it would stack beautifully with that java paper about bitflip-induced sandbox breakout |
| 21:53:55 | Emcy: | gmaxwell i thought logical addresses had no relation to physical locations |
| 21:54:09 | Emcy: | hard disks, ssd, ram etc |
| 21:54:55 | Emcy: | or, i thought the rows an columns were abstracted away from the os |
| 21:55:36 | gwillen: | they are to some degree I think |
| 21:55:55 | gwillen: | but you can still just try all of them and see what happens |
| 21:56:32 | Emcy: | well im reading an abstract that tells me im wrong, so i dont know what im asking |
| 21:57:08 | Emcy: | i wonder id ddr4 helps with this |
| 21:57:22 | Emcy: | or that cube stacked memory thing........ |
| 21:58:01 | Emcy: | i suppose if this is just now coming out in academia we can assume NSa has been on it for like 5 years |
| 22:00:47 | Emcy: | >Circle CEO Jeremy Allaire has called on bitcoins core developers to step up and create a more open, inclusive and well-defined process for the protocols development. |
| 22:01:13 | Emcy: | how about these bitcoin startups start writing fucking cheques and doing stipends then........ |
| 23:52:40 | justanotheruser: | How is stake usually ground? By making different tx inside the block you're grinding? |