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21:08:48 | andytoshi: | gmaxwell: i've written up the output distribution thing https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/wizardry/brs-arbitrary-output-sizes.txt |
21:09:09 | andytoshi: | if anyone who wasn't in the original convo would like to read it and tell me if it's understandable, that'd be awesome |
21:11:23 | gmaxwell: | adam3us: ^ |
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22:38:10 | Guest6192: | I did an analysis of button presses as an entropy source: https://gist.github.com/petertodd/2ec211f86c2cc8ede377 |
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22:41:28 | justanotheruser: | petertodd: why not use a keyboard? that way even a super expensive mic probably wouldn't be able to comprimise you |
22:41:52 | petertodd: | justanotheruser: this is for a hardware wallet with just a single button available |
22:42:00 | petertodd: | justanotheruser: I'll let you guess which one :) |
22:42:20 | justanotheruser: | makes sense |
22:42:40 | justanotheruser: | are you consulting for trezor or something? |
22:42:40 | sipa: | what is S? |
22:42:52 | petertodd: | my stats math gets a bit hand-wavey, but hey, I've never actually taken stats :) |
22:42:55 | petertodd: | sipa: S? |
22:43:16 | sipa: | 4.7 uS |
22:43:26 | sipa: | microseconds? |
22:43:33 | petertodd: | justanotheruser: yeah, one of them |
22:43:43 | petertodd: | sipa: lol, s/S/s/ |
22:44:21 | justanotheruser: | lol |
22:44:25 | sipa: | in physics, entropy is S iirc |
22:44:46 | sipa: | so i was a bit confused witgout reading in detail :) |
22:45:53 | petertodd: | sipa: heh, I swear, everytime I publish something I make at least one dumb mistake... it's almost like I'm unconsciously trying to make distract my audience from the fundemental errors :P |
22:52:33 | petertodd: | justanotheruser: oh yeah, and just to be clear, the project in question is getting that advice for free, and my usual contract doesn't give clients exclusive rights to IP anyway, nor confidentiality |
22:53:55 | nsh: | +1 |
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