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04:09:16	maaku:	gmaxwell: so it occured to me that the OWAS scheme prevents covenants
04:09:22	maaku:	not sure if that is a plus or a minus
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05:28:01	maaku:	gmaxwell: no, nevermind -- you could still have certain forms of covenants, clearly
05:28:14	maaku:	just the ones that remain stable/valid as you add & reorder inputs and outputs
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15:15:48	nell:	brilliant!
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21:45:38	Eliel_:	gmaxwell: I got the idea from that text just fine.
21:45:49	Eliel_:	(the ring signature text)
21:47:28	Eliel_:	I needed to scratch my head for a while before I understood why the receiver of a transfer can only spend one from all the outputs.
21:48:22	Eliel_:	It's pretty simple, but would probably help if it was spelled out directly.
22:28:53	andytoshi:	Eliel_: is "that text" https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/wizardry/brs-arbitrary-output-sizes.txt ?
22:29:10	Eliel_:	andytoshi: yes that
22:29:11	andytoshi:	i'll add some clarification on that point, i agree it's nonobvious
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22:33:40	andytoshi:	Eliel_: ok, i've replaced the "
22:33:43	andytoshi:	Double-spending is prevented..." paragraph
22:36:27	tacotime:	Is there somewhere the COERCE algorithm is described in detail?
22:37:31	andytoshi:	tacotime: a simple example would be "use the number as the x-coordinate for the EC point, and take the upper y-coordinate"
22:37:41	andytoshi:	i should probably put that in as an example..
22:38:31	tacotime:	Oh, okay
22:42:47	Eliel_:	andytoshi: umm, what I was after was a simple answer to the question "why can't the receiver of output spend the ghost outputs too?".
22:47:02	andytoshi:	Eliel_: oh, ok. i've gotta run, i'll fix that in an hour or two....i'll think about what a simple answer might look like in the meantime :)
23:49:44	paavo:	Anyone know how to restore android wallet keys on an iphone?
23:49:50	paavo:	Is that possible?
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