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| 01:28:46 | andytoshi: | i put a cronjob in to restart it every morning at 1:05, hopefully that'll improve its reliability |
| 01:39:39 | super3: | sigh he was even here for a second |
| 01:50:30 | andytoshi: | if you repeat exactly what you said it'll be logged |
| 01:51:01 | super3: | 9:23:15 PM - super3: well if your watching the logs cookie, the time period is set in a contract by the storing the file on the network |
| 01:51:01 | super3: | 9:23:44 PM - super3: so if you are storing an important file you probably want to do every hour or so |
| 01:51:01 | super3: | 9:24:11 PM - super3: if its a backup file that you probably will never access again, could […] |
| 01:51:21 | super3: | if its a backup file that you probably will never access again, could set that time for longer |
| 02:00:28 | amiller: | super3, i just read a thread where you claimed to have bought coingen.io from bluematt |
| 02:00:30 | amiller: | is that right |
| 02:00:37 | amiller: | why'd you shut it off? |
| 02:05:08 | super3: | amiller: yes. was finishing my batchelors, and spending all my time working on storj that i didn't spend the time on it that i should have |
| 02:05:40 | amiller: | it was already working before you bought it, maybe you could just turn it on again or let matt turn it on again before you have time to do whatever you wanted to ti? |
| 02:05:50 | amiller: | was already working + making money, if i remember right! |
| 02:06:13 | super3: | it was never on my servers, i spend many hours slowly trying to get the unixfu working |
| 02:06:24 | super3: | so he must of shut it off or something |
| 02:07:18 | super3: | ill start work on it after, i get back from the conference this weekend |
| 02:11:21 | super3: | did you need it to bootstrap something? |
| 02:40:23 | super3: | amiller: still there? |
| 03:32:53 | amiller: | hi super3 still here, no i don't need to bootstrap anything, was just wondering where it went :) |
| 03:33:25 | amiller: | * amiller paces back and forth.... "i need a new altcoin... NOW" |
| 03:39:35 | super3: | introducing crackcoin |
| 04:17:34 | amiller: | introducing CrackCoin - it's like proof of burn, you burn 1 bitcoin and get 1 crackcoin... but also you have to keep burning 1 bitcoin each month just to keep the crackcoin you already have |
| 04:22:24 | phantomcircuit: | amiller, you're gonna be rich |
| 04:22:27 | phantomcircuit: | wait no |
| 04:22:34 | phantomcircuit: | you're just gonna make some people poor |
| 04:22:35 | phantomcircuit: | hilarious |
| 04:23:05 | amiller: | why make yourself rich when you can just make everyone else poor |
| 04:24:04 | BlueMatt: | amiller: It got to the point it wasnt paying for its servers, so I turned it off |
| 04:24:54 | amiller: | oh really? how much did it cost to keep it up? i remember a bunch of forum comments complaining ppl paid and didn't get the code, what's the botteleneck? did your terms of sale to super3 include being able to keep running it yourself if you could keep the server up? |
| 04:26:57 | phantomcircuit: | amiller, actually since it was running a daemon for each coin |
| 04:27:01 | phantomcircuit: | im guessing fairly expensive |
| 04:30:13 | BlueMatt: | phantomcircuit: nope, never did get that far into implementing it |
| 04:30:25 | BlueMatt: | amiller: it wasnt much, but it was getting like no sales |
| 04:31:15 | amiller: | if people aren't using it then it shouldn't cost much to keep up, and you don't have to do any processing until someone pays |
| 04:32:04 | super3: | i got stuck setting it up, what are those base58 bitcoin public addresses? |
| 04:32:46 | super3: | amiller: if you really want it up, im happy to share the code and the dev server |
| 04:33:17 | BlueMatt: | amiller: too much effort to make the server dynamically handle that |
| 04:33:25 | BlueMatt: | amiller: I have 0 interest in putting effort into it |
| 04:34:12 | amiller: | i'll give (either of) you $100 to turn it back on just because it's cute and no one else has one |
| 04:35:21 | super3: | lol, amiller write me a script to generate a bunch of base58 encoded pub keys and ill have it up asap |
| 04:35:52 | amiller: | If that's all that's holding things up, I'll drive the rig |
| 04:36:29 | super3: | i need like 10k addresses or something |
| 04:37:22 | amiller: | i'll give bluematt $100 to troubleshoot super3's problem |
| 04:39:07 | phantomcircuit: | amiller, lold |
| 04:43:43 | BlueMatt: | super3: you should be able to do that from bitcoin-cli |
| 04:43:47 | BlueMatt: | dont remember how though |
| 04:43:55 | BlueMatt: | maybe make list of addresses and dumppubkey or something |
| 04:43:58 | BlueMatt: | ask sipa |
| 04:44:03 | BlueMatt: | or help |
| 05:01:10 | super3: | BlueMatt: so what else is up? |
| 05:01:29 | super3: | what are you working on now? |
| 05:03:17 | BlueMatt: | current work is trying to break back into bitcoin after being gone for so long |
| 05:06:24 | super3: | you just graduated right? |
| 05:10:36 | jgarzik: | BlueMatt, I want to add bitcoin-key and bitcoin-script utilities alongside bitcoin-tx util recently added. The operation you and super3 were just discussing would fit in perfectly in one of those command line utilities. |
| 05:10:45 | jgarzik: | sorta like openssl(1) |
| 05:11:09 | jgarzik: | (except not everything stuffed into one big program) |
| 05:11:42 | BlueMatt: | jgarzik: you can do it now with bitcoin-cli (and the keys need added to the wallet, so......) |
| 05:11:46 | BlueMatt: | super3: yea |
| 05:12:10 | super3: | congrats |
| 05:14:44 | jgarzik: | BlueMatt, bitcoin-cli is stupid for such a task |
| 05:15:02 | jgarzik: | BlueMatt, there is zero need to contact a server, just to generate a key. |
| 05:15:16 | jgarzik: | or any other trivial task like that |
| 05:15:35 | BlueMatt: | jgarzik: agreed, but if you want the key to end up in your wallet without a create->import flow, then you need to talk to your wallet somehow |
| 05:15:43 | BlueMatt: | so, really, you need bitcoin-wallet, not bitcoin-key |
| 05:16:00 | jgarzik: | BlueMatt, sure, you use different interfaces depending on how you manage keys |
| 05:16:13 | BlueMatt: | sure |
| 05:16:25 | jgarzik: | BlueMatt, the command line utilities are in effect raw transaction api pieces. RPC still makes sense for wallet stuff. |
| 05:17:13 | BlueMatt: | (aside from the fact that wallet needs to be a separate process) |
| 05:17:14 | BlueMatt: | but, yes |
| 05:17:39 | jgarzik: | ideally for coingen type usage, you use offline wallets / HD to avoid privkeys on the server at all |
| 05:18:19 | phantomcircuit: | jgarzik, that's why he was talking about pre generating them i assume |
| 05:25:33 | gmaxwell: | anyone know anything about darkwallet being offline? |
| 05:28:29 | phantomcircuit: | gmaxwell, dns failure it looks like |
| 05:29:08 | gwillen: | no relation to the entire internet apparently being half-down today? |
| 05:29:13 | phantomcircuit: | dns registrars website is offline also |
| 05:29:26 | gwillen: | possibly some relation to that, then |
| 05:30:34 | phantomcircuit: | descr: Advania / Thor Data Center |
| 05:30:36 | phantomcircuit: | lol |
| 05:30:45 | phantomcircuit: | prepare for hilarity as some miners go offline |
| 05:31:47 | phantomcircuit: | actually |
| 05:32:03 | phantomcircuit: | i wonder if it's some BGP nonsense from someone trying to knock them offline... |
| 05:34:30 | phantomcircuit: | oh nope |
| 05:34:54 | phantomcircuit: | gmaxwell, dns server responds with an empty record (ie not NXDOMAIN, but without an a record) |
| 05:36:21 | gwillen: | phantomcircuit: apparently the whole internet has been having issues today because some views of the global routing table exceeded 512k entries, which is all that certain cisco devices are capable of holding |
| 05:36:37 | phantomcircuit: | gwillen, lol |
| 05:37:02 | phantomcircuit: | dats a lot of entries |
| 05:37:54 | gwillen: | yeaaaah |
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| 08:08:27 | sipa: | * sipa too |
| 08:30:50 | gmaxwell: | How fast is vanitygen on a typical GPU? |
| 08:35:41 | gmaxwell: | On my CPU here it's about 750Kkey/s. The vanity generator I just wrote runs at 9.8Mkey/s. The speedup on a gpu should be similar (if not greater, I think my algorithim should be more gpu friendly) |
| 08:37:23 | Luke-Jr: | gmaxwell: nice |
| 08:38:00 | Luke-Jr: | gmaxwell: would be neat to integrate it with HD wallet seeds ;) |
| 09:04:40 | gmaxwell: | Luke-Jr: meh, users should not be using them— also, no need to 'vanitygen' seeds, just create them directly. |
| 09:14:31 | Luke-Jr: | gmaxwell: I mean have a HD wallet that skips any key that doesn't match a short pattern ;) |
| 09:18:13 | gmaxwell: | hah. lol. well the speedups needed to get that speed are not compatible with generating keys on a BIP32 chain. |
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| 11:51:12 | Luke-Jr: | gmaxwell: hrm, but probably it could be done in a way that could be deterministically reproduced at least? as an alternative maybe-not-hierarchial deterministic wallet? |
| 11:51:50 | Luke-Jr: | or would multiples of these be insecure? |
| 12:02:39 | sipa: | gmaxwell: i remember numbers like being around 10 times slower than hashing on GPUs |
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