| 00:27:21 | amiller_: | anyone have any explanation for how taint analysis actually works? |
| 00:27:24 | amiller_: | i can't figure out how it's calculated |
| 00:27:42 | amiller_: | i guess i basically mean blockchain.info's implementation since that's the only readily available one |
| 00:29:52 | amiller_: | hearn has a redlisting proposal but i can't find any of the details about how it's calculated so i'm not sure what the proposal actually is |
| 00:34:09 | Emcy: | amiller_ if you specifically mean bc.i then i think theyre pulling it out of their ass |
| 00:34:30 | amiller_: | found a paper but it really sheds no light on this https://www.wi.uni-muenster.de/sites/default/files/public/department/itsecurity/mbc13/mbc13-moeser-paper.pdf |
| 00:34:38 | Emcy: | otherwise its just graphing and statistical analysis rite |
| 00:35:09 | amiller_: | there's a "deviation" but it isn't standard |
| 00:39:23 | tacotime: | their algos are open source i though |
| 00:40:56 | amiller_: | tacotime, link? |
| 00:40:59 | amiller_: | how to find? |
| 00:44:46 | tacotime: | there used to be one to the source code form bc.i, lemme see if i can find it |
| 00:55:14 | midnightmagic: | amiller_: I was always under the impression that it was a literal proportionality of the present funds. I have no idea how they're pathing though. |
| 00:56:14 | amiller_: | taint is shit |
| 01:00:06 | Emcy: | ^heh |
| 01:01:31 | gmaxwell: | it seemed to be mostly jibberish when I tried to figure it out before. |
| 03:33:53 | SDC: | SDC is now known as SDCDev |
| 04:14:42 | trap_exit: | hi, what is sugested reading material for (1) why has bitcoin confirmoation times not hit < 10 miunutes and (2) why have none of the existing anonymize-bitcoin-transactions protocols not been impelmented ? |
| 04:35:31 | andytoshi: | trap_exit: for (1) i'm not sure what you mean, see some commentary in https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/alts.pdf for breaking changes, for (2) see https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/29471/is-there-any-true-anonymous-cryptocurrencies |
| 04:35:49 | andytoshi: | trap_exit: there is a lot of work going on, there's just a lot of it and very few qualified people |
| 04:36:39 | trap_exit: | andytoshi: what do you mean by vew few qualified people? |
| 04:36:48 | trap_exit: | isn't the number of crypto researchers rather large? |
| 04:37:31 | andytoshi: | trap_exit: yes, but the number of bitcoin researchers who also have experience implementing things is very small |
| 04:37:32 | Luke-Jr: | trap_exit: research doesn't help implementation |
| 05:11:00 | trap_exit: | so basically |
| 05:11:03 | trap_exit: | all the theoretical results are done |
| 05:11:08 | trap_exit: | but no one has figured out how to impelment them |
| 05:12:35 | Luke-Jr: | trap_exit: no one has *actually* implemented them, is more like it |
| 05:13:09 | trap_exit: | because they are impractical, or why ? |
| 05:14:24 | Luke-Jr: | because people have limited time? |
| 05:14:35 | Luke-Jr: | and anonymity is not that interesting? |
| 05:26:54 | EasyAt_: | EasyAt_ is now known as EasyAt |
| 05:49:46 | andytoshi: | i am interested in it. not enough to find the time for it i guess ... but that's a pretty high bar for interestingness these days.. |
| 05:55:00 | Luke-Jr: | andytoshi: I meant relative to other things ;) |
| 05:57:34 | andytoshi: | i'm not sure interestingness is the right metric ... eg i spent like an hour today just feeding myself and i didn't find it interesting at all |
| 05:57:40 | andytoshi: | but i still didn't spend any time on anonymity |
| 05:58:36 | Luke-Jr: | oh |
| 05:58:43 | Luke-Jr: | I guess I should actually eat, eh |
| 05:58:46 | Luke-Jr: | <.< |
| 05:58:53 | sipa: | food is highly overrated |
| 05:59:19 | sipa: | humanity survived for millenia without restaurants |
| 05:59:41 | Luke-Jr: | sipa: I suspect that increases the time spent dealing with it |
| 06:03:04 | fluffypony: | andytoshi: easy solution...hire someone to feed you whilst you work |
| 06:06:36 | gmaxwell: | IV total nutrition for the win. |
| 06:06:46 | Luke-Jr: | gmaxwell wins |
| 06:59:21 | Adlai: | didn't soylent open source their recipe? |
| 07:03:18 | gmaxwell: | soylent? meh, more evidence that bitcoin-wizards came up with every fad internet idea first, http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=204612 :P |
| 07:03:54 | gwillen: | hahahahaha |
| 07:04:11 | gwillen: | seems likely you weren't first either ;-) |
| 07:04:27 | fluffypony: | Adlai: yes, and sadly it isn't people |
| 07:04:55 | BlueMatt: | * BlueMatt prefers the amazon fresh route |
| 07:05:18 | BlueMatt: | expensive, but totally worth the feeling of having dumb shit show up the next morning |
| 07:31:42 | jtimon: | I watched green soylent recently, great film |
| 07:40:08 | sipa: | S |
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| 08:14:22 | Adlai: | for laughs, watch the trailer, which gives away the twist (in case somebody had been living in a cave for the past decades) |
| 08:30:37 | wumpus: | in a cave, or not born yet /me feels old for knowing that film, I saw it when quite young on German tv, I was shocked also to realize not all sci fi was about space ships, aliens, and happy future societies |
| 08:32:19 | Luke-Jr: | I saw it a few years ago |
| 08:34:15 | wumpus: | (Germans always dub movies, so I didn't know for a long time that it was an American movie not a German one) |
| 08:36:02 | Luke-Jr: | lol |
| 08:36:55 | phantomcircuit: | wumpus, germans dub everything |
| 08:37:15 | phantomcircuit: | effectively all of american tv... |
| 08:37:33 | phantomcircuit: | watching sponge bob square pants dubbed in german is weird |
| 08:38:54 | Luke-Jr: | it's pretty fun to acquire movies and such, then wait until you've totally forgotten why you chose it before actually watching :P |
| 08:39:02 | Luke-Jr: | side note: "Her" was pretty lame |
| 08:40:03 | phantomcircuit: | Luke-Jr, lol you watched that |
| 08:40:15 | Luke-Jr: | phantomcircuit: it sounded like it might have been better |
| 08:40:20 | Luke-Jr: | from the summaries |
| 08:42:16 | phantomcircuit: | Luke-Jr, movie is obviously terrible from the trailer |
| 08:42:29 | Luke-Jr: | phantomcircuit: I don't watch trailers :p |
| 08:43:07 | Luke-Jr: | it's about a guy who's dumped, gets a girlfriend, realises she's cheating on him, tries to make peace with that fact while keeping her, and then she leaves him |
| 08:43:08 | Luke-Jr: | O.o |
| 08:44:04 | phantomcircuit: | Luke-Jr, yeah |
| 08:44:17 | Luke-Jr: | * Luke-Jr peers at the one he's watching now have like 8" floppy disks |
| 08:44:30 | Luke-Jr: | * Luke-Jr wonders when "Demon Seed" was made |
| 08:45:17 | wumpus: | back in the 80's at least, ah 1977 even according to wikipedia |
| 08:46:46 | Luke-Jr: | XD |
| 08:50:17 | wumpus: | back in those days AIs going rogue wasn't completely cliched yet :) |
| 08:52:59 | Luke-Jr: | shh, don't spoil it |
| 08:53:11 | Luke-Jr: | I hadn't even remembered it was about computers <.< |
| 09:25:50 | Luke-Jr: | this super AI is sure bad at psychology XD |
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