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| 16:14:38 | kouradas: | i made A this dogeraiser and they scammed me. if you can help there is a hefty sum to be made check this post also http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2mkfvd/dogeraiser_repost/ 6 MILLION DOGECOIN |
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| 19:00:56 | lechuga_: | is a freimarkets impl the sidechains grail? |
| 19:36:50 | manaka: | are there simpler alternatives for two way pegging than sidechains? |
| 19:37:00 | manaka: | like let's say a blockchain less alternative |
| 19:37:17 | Luke-Jr: | manaka: potentially, if the pegs are SNARKs |
| 19:37:34 | manaka: | aren't snarks unfeasible for now? |
| 19:38:09 | Luke-Jr: | probably, just saying |
| 19:38:32 | Luke-Jr: | (depending on what you mean by 'unfeasible'…) |
| 19:38:44 | lechuga_: | wonder y i never saw the freimarkets paper until the funding announcement |
| 19:39:10 | Luke-Jr: | funding announcement? |
| 19:39:27 | manaka: | what about open transactions extending a 2 peg system? |
| 19:39:29 | lechuga_: | the blockstream blog post |
| 19:39:30 | Luke-Jr: | Freimarkets is AFAIK part of BlockStream's umbrella - not sure why there'd be external funding O.o |
| 19:39:36 | lechuga_: | http://blockstream.com/2014/11/17/blockstream-closes-21m-seed-round/ |
| 19:39:53 | manaka: | what are those venture capitaliss getting in return? |
| 19:39:57 | lechuga_: | sorry, didnt mean to imply separate funding |
| 19:42:43 | Luke-Jr: | ah, got it |
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| 21:17:49 | AdrianG: | does blockstream have a revenue model? how they are raising 21M ? |
| 21:19:41 | phantomcircuit: | AdrianG, i believe it's |
| 21:19:45 | phantomcircuit: | build cool things |
| 21:19:47 | phantomcircuit: | ??? |
| 21:19:48 | phantomcircuit: | profit |
| 21:23:56 | Luke-Jr: | phantomcircuit: lol, pretty much |
| 21:24:09 | Luke-Jr: | AdrianG: they're basically trusting us to come up with something I guess |
| 21:29:25 | AdrianG: | lol phantomcircuit |
| 21:29:45 | AdrianG: | I am guessing it was 21M cos there are 21M bitcoins. |
| 21:29:51 | AdrianG: | 1 dollar = 1 btc. |
| 21:31:03 | Luke-Jr: | :D |
| 21:31:26 | AdrianG: | Luke-Jr: "us", you mean you are on blockstream team also? I didnt know |
| 21:32:28 | Luke-Jr: | AdrianG: yeah |
| 21:33:17 | AdrianG: | interesting. |
| 21:35:47 | Luke-Jr: | AdrianG: I'm mainly focussed on mining decentralisation - now I can dedicate more time to getting things rolled out |
| 21:38:50 | AdrianG: | Luke-Jr: thats your part of blocksteam work? |
| 21:39:05 | Luke-Jr: | right |
| 21:39:09 | AdrianG: | nice |
| 21:57:54 | go1111111: | are folks here familiar with Vitalik's "exponential subjective scoring" idea, where nodes don't just accept the longest fork, but use a rule where if they see a new fork that starts N nodes back, they penalize it by a factor of something like 0.6^N? I have a feeling this doesn't improve security for game theory reasons -- nodes can freely pick which subjective outlook they want to have. has this been formally analyzed? |
| 22:04:13 | Luke-Jr: | well, it obviously makes it difficult (impossible?) for a new node to come to the same conclusions as existing nodes |
| 22:04:20 | helo: | so, a node walks into a room. it sees one chain of length ... yeah what luke said |
| 22:06:11 | helo: | i could make a billion-block chain of very low difficulty, and it would be chosen over the real 330K chain |
| 22:08:00 | tromp_: | choosing between 2 forks should not depend on which you saw first... |
| 22:08:50 | go1111111: | yeah, makes sense. |
| 22:27:27 | AdrianG: | vitalik has wild ideas. |
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| 22:53:48 | heath: | petertodd: typo on the readme |
| 22:54:41 | heath: | hm, i thought i would be less annoying and create a PR for this, but now i don't recall where i saw it :) |
| 22:54:57 | heath: | maybe should have performed the annoying action |
| 22:56:09 | heath: | it's in the readme of python-bitcoinlib, but i guess it isn't a big deal given i can't find it now |
| 23:03:43 | petertodd: | heath: hahahahaha, I think you won the game for least useful bug report :) |
| 23:04:18 | petertodd: | heath: though granted, you could have left out the "on the readme" to make it even less useful... |
| 23:05:24 | maaku: | petertodd: I'm pretty sure I saw a typo in one of your posts on reddit. |
| 23:05:25 | maaku: | can't remember where it was, sorry. |
| 23:05:34 | btcdrak: | lol |
| 23:05:36 | maaku: | but you should fix that |
| 23:06:37 | petertodd: | maaku: I was about to respond with a joke involving a binary search... but I can't see how to get reddit to tell you how many posts you've made... |
| 23:07:17 | kanzure: | simple, place a bounty on it |
| 23:07:58 | petertodd: | kanzure: ok, for each type you find, log2(n)*1uBTC |
| 23:08:09 | petertodd: | (I'm not very confident...) |
| 23:08:51 | kanzure: | heath: "libary" |
| 23:09:26 | kanzure: | petertodd: https://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib/commit/f765ce68ac3d424dd7d3ea8c0c7df40722ca7b9c#diff-c47c7c7383225ab55ff591cb59c41e6bR22 |
| 23:11:28 | petertodd: | kanzure: done, https://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib/commit/336dce5b870052ff47058c2cbd16f7b63505f987 |
| 23:12:12 | petertodd: | kanzure: now just find one more and you'll get your first micro-bitcoin reward! |
| 23:12:25 | kanzure: | what's really funny is that i'm actually paying heath |
| 23:12:31 | kanzure: | and i'm paying him more than one micro-bitcoin |
| 23:12:34 | petertodd: | lol |
| 23:12:38 | btcdrak: | this channel needs a tipbox |
| 23:12:43 | btcdrak: | *t |
| 23:13:46 | petertodd: | btcdrak: ...implemented by paying each other in coinbase txout probabalistic payments |
| 23:14:05 | btcdrak: | .-. |
| 23:31:05 | phantomcircuit: | phantomcircuit has left #bitcoin-wizards |
| 23:35:11 | heath: | kanzure: ah, there it is |
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| 23:38:31 | heath: | really, there are rewards with typos? |
| 23:38:50 | heath: | kanzure: i'm pretty sure i can find more |
| 23:38:57 | heath: | s/kanzure/petertodd |
| 23:39:40 | heath: | i can get you 3 - 4 typo corrections tonight if you want them |
| 23:42:35 | heath: | i like that "typo" is misspelled in the commit :) |
| 23:59:02 | phantomcircuit: | petertodd, what's the proofmarshall stuff? |
| 23:59:07 | phantomcircuit: | -l |