00:06:52 | Anduck: | hmm.. |
00:07:14 | Anduck: | gmaxwell: would there be utility to implement them as one kind of addresses? |
00:07:30 | Anduck: | services could accept 0-conf from them |
00:08:42 | Anduck: | ...though miners could doublespend anyway but i can see there could be some utility if it was available. probably better to keep it simple though |
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10:34:39 | gmaxwell: | http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.3458 "The proposed polynomial basis allows that h-point polynomial evaluation can be computed in O(hlog2(h)) finite field operations with small leading constant." |
11:15:04 | midnightmagic: | lol |
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12:23:07 | Eliel: | If I calculated correctly, for practical purposes, that means RS decoding efficinecy has gone up 300%+ (assuming h of at least 256) |
12:49:52 | gmaxwell: | Eliel: perhaps not that simple, small RS codes just use tables for multipling. The concrete performance numbers they gave are kind of suspect (the competing implementation sounds insanely slow). |
12:51:07 | gmaxwell: | But certantly interesting to see something finally achieve the expected asymptotic complexity in GF2. |
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22:56:45 | phantomcircuit: | gmaxwell, did you see my hilarious realization? |
22:57:03 | phantomcircuit: | you can actually build a pos consensus system.... but history isn't permanent |
22:57:11 | phantomcircuit: | everybody agrees on what the new history is though |
22:57:12 | phantomcircuit: | so |
22:57:13 | phantomcircuit: | horray |
22:57:31 | jcorgan: | we have always been at war with eastasia |
22:57:41 | phantomcircuit: | jcorgan, heh |
22:57:58 | phantomcircuit: | it was thinking of calling it paypal coin |
22:58:38 | phantomcircuit: | and have the forking rules be that any conflicts destroy the conflicted coins entirely including their descendants |
22:58:44 | phantomcircuit: | this is of course entirely useless |
22:58:52 | phantomcircuit: | but technically provides a distributed consensus |
22:59:36 | phantomcircuit: | oh and there's a pretty obvious dos issue |
22:59:43 | phantomcircuit: | but *waves hands* |
23:01:10 | Anduck: | is it something like how ripple is trying to work? |
23:01:55 | phantomcircuit: | Anduck, amusingly it's close to the same result but far simpler to implement |
23:02:49 | Anduck: | you have to tell them about it (or stellar devs). i think stellar devs are trying to fix the consensus thing which is broken in ripple and in stellar |
23:03:46 | phantomcircuit: | Anduck, i'd be pretty amused if they implemented this |
23:03:48 | phantomcircuit: | since |
23:03:51 | phantomcircuit: | this is of course entirely useless |
23:04:53 | Anduck: | hmm ahhm..yeah |
23:14:05 | phantomcircuit: | Anduck, it's amusing because it is technically a distributed consensus system |
23:14:17 | Anduck: | yeah i figured =) |
23:17:15 | Anduck: | phantomcircuit: if someone tried to double-spend the consensus would destroy the coins? |